I have now got a copy of Henry Clarke's (my great grandfather) birth cerificate.
He was born on 18th August 1860 in Ticknall, Derbyshire.
His mother was Clara Clarke.
There is no mention of the father at all................. confirming that he is in fact illegitimate.
Not been able to find any mention of Clara Clarke on any of the census' around that time in Ticknall................
Sunday 30 August 2009
Friday 21 August 2009
THE END OF THE WAR - PHOTO
This photo was taken in Melbourne Market Place at the end of the Second World War.
Everyone was celebrating the end of the war and making fun of the Germans.
Molly and Edna are to the left of the photo by 'Hitlers' arm.
ARTHUR MARSON TIVEY PROFILE
Arthur Marson Tivey
born 21st October 1898
died ? lung cancer ?
Parents Leonard Tivey and Elizabeth Marson and brother Hereward.
Born and lived in Melbourne for most of his life.
Married Helena Clarke in 1920.
Lived at the Dog Kennel cottages at Calke with Helena.
Had three daughters Molly, Edna and Helena (Ena)
Helena died 1925
Worked as a brick layer's labourer all his working life.
He remarried in 1936 to Evelyn Godfrey and they moved and lived rest of their lives in Wilmorton Derby.
Unsure of his military history but a note in his wife's diary leads me to believe he joined up with the Sherwood Forresters. He apparently always suffered with a 'bad chest' due to being gassed during the war. Not sure how true this is ?
Thursday 20 August 2009
PROFILE OF HENRY CLARKE
Henry Clarke was my Great Grandfather
He was born in 1868 in Ticknall, Derbyshire
According to the 1871 census when he was 2 years old he was living in Stanton Lane, Ticknall with his Aunt and Uncle Samuel and Sarah Topliss and their children.
Have an idea he may have been born illegitamately..............
I have tracked down and ordered a copy of his birth certificate try to find out.
In 1881 according to the census he was still living with Samuel and Sarah Topliss and their children William 19, Catherine 13, Mary 9, Samuel 5 and George Topliss in Stanton Lane, Ticknall.
He married Edna Spencer (she was born about 1872) ? when
They had 3 daughters
Evelyn b. 1897
Helena b. 1899
Mary Jane (Jinney) b. 1900
In the 1901 census he was living at Bantons Lane in Ticknall with his wife and daughters and working as a groom at Calke Abbey.
In the next census in 1911 his wife was widowed and living at Derby Hills, Melbourne (The Common - between Melbourne and Ticknall) together with Helena and Mary Jane
Henry Clarke died 8th December 1905 in Main Street, Ticknall. He was 38 years old. He died of Chronic Pulmonary Tuberculosis and heart failure. His wife was with him when he died. At that time he was described as a 'general labourer'.
He was born in 1868 in Ticknall, Derbyshire
According to the 1871 census when he was 2 years old he was living in Stanton Lane, Ticknall with his Aunt and Uncle Samuel and Sarah Topliss and their children.
Have an idea he may have been born illegitamately..............
I have tracked down and ordered a copy of his birth certificate try to find out.
In 1881 according to the census he was still living with Samuel and Sarah Topliss and their children William 19, Catherine 13, Mary 9, Samuel 5 and George Topliss in Stanton Lane, Ticknall.
He married Edna Spencer (she was born about 1872) ? when
They had 3 daughters
Evelyn b. 1897
Helena b. 1899
Mary Jane (Jinney) b. 1900
In the 1901 census he was living at Bantons Lane in Ticknall with his wife and daughters and working as a groom at Calke Abbey.
In the next census in 1911 his wife was widowed and living at Derby Hills, Melbourne (The Common - between Melbourne and Ticknall) together with Helena and Mary Jane
Henry Clarke died 8th December 1905 in Main Street, Ticknall. He was 38 years old. He died of Chronic Pulmonary Tuberculosis and heart failure. His wife was with him when he died. At that time he was described as a 'general labourer'.
Saturday 15 August 2009
DEATH CERTIFICATES
I have received the death cerificates I ordered.
Found out Henry Clarke (great grandfather) died of Tuberculosis aged 38.
He died on 8th December 1905 in Main Street, Ticknall. His wife Edna Clarke was with him when he died.
Helena Tivey (my grandmother and daughter of Henry Clarke) died on 4th May 1924 aged 25. She died in the Derbyshire Royal Infirmary. Her husband Arthur Marson Tivey was a bricklayers labourer at the time and they lived at the Kennels, Calke nr Ticknall. She died of Encaephalitis Lethargica - 21 days PM whatever that means ?
Found out Henry Clarke (great grandfather) died of Tuberculosis aged 38.
He died on 8th December 1905 in Main Street, Ticknall. His wife Edna Clarke was with him when he died.
Helena Tivey (my grandmother and daughter of Henry Clarke) died on 4th May 1924 aged 25. She died in the Derbyshire Royal Infirmary. Her husband Arthur Marson Tivey was a bricklayers labourer at the time and they lived at the Kennels, Calke nr Ticknall. She died of Encaephalitis Lethargica - 21 days PM whatever that means ?
Saturday 8 August 2009
DEATH CERTIFICATES
Excited ! Traced Helena Tivey and Henry Clarke's death certificates on the census website and then ordered a copy of their death certificates....
Henry died in 1905 aged 38 - so should be able to find out what he died of.
Also reading 'Awakenings' by Oliver Sacks - all about encaephalitis lethargic patients being treated with levo dopa and wakening up after decades of inertia. Gives a good insight into the disease and makes me wonder how long Helena had it before she died ?
Henry died in 1905 aged 38 - so should be able to find out what he died of.
Also reading 'Awakenings' by Oliver Sacks - all about encaephalitis lethargic patients being treated with levo dopa and wakening up after decades of inertia. Gives a good insight into the disease and makes me wonder how long Helena had it before she died ?
Thursday 6 August 2009
STAUNTON HAROLD RESERVOIR
above - looking towards the farm which is near the Dog Kennel Cottages at Calke.
THE FLOODING OF THE VALLEY
Staunton Harold reservoir was created in 1964 – before that time the valley was a place for industry and agriculture. Beneath the water lies a fascinating picture of local history.
Sir Henry’s Bridge was begun by Sir Henry Crewe of Calke Abbey. Sir Henry rode over his half finished bridge on the way to London in 1817, and scolded the men for their laziness, telling them to complete it before his return. In London, the unfortunate Sir Henry was killed by a fall from his horse. The carriage bringing his body back to Calke was the last to pass over the still incomplete bridge. It was never finished but became a famous local landmark.
Calke Mill dates back to 1589 and appears to have been in continuous use until the 1950’s. In 1879 Sir Henry Harper Crewe of the Harper Crewe family, purchased it and the surrounding land. The mill’s last tenant was Fred Bentley who left in 1958, and whose family had lived on the Calke estate for over two centuries. At the time Fred announced, ‘before they turn our old house into a reservoir we shall get a barrel of beer, get all the family together and have a party’. The family still live locally.
Furnace farm now lies under water 200metres from the dam. This was the site of a forge believed to date back to the 17th century. Here, cast iron was worked into wrought iron using hammers powered by a water wheel in a stream running through the valley. By 1735, the old forge had been converted to a charcoal-fired blast furnace. Again water power from the nearby stream was used, this time to operate bellows; charcoal was supplied from Melbourne Wood.
At the time of the flooding, New England Farm and two other small-holdings were also covered by the new reservoir.
Our relatives living a the Dog Kennels at Calke, (now on the edge of the reservoir) also moved out to make way for the flooding of the valley, although in the event the cottages survived. They can be accessed via a private road which leads to the farm on the edge of the reservoir (off Broadstone Lane, Ticknall) or by foot from the back of the reservoir which borders on Calke Park. (Footpath leading from the 'Round Carpark). The road from the Kennel Cottages is the old road from Melbourne through Calke and leading straight to Calke Abbey.
BANTON'S LANE, TICKNALL, DERBYSHIRE
I took Poppy for a walk to Ticknall today to discover Banton's Lane. This is where my Great Grandparents Henry and Edna Clarke lived with their three daughters at the time of the 1901 census.
Banton's lane is on the left coming into Ticknall from the Melbourne Direction, just after the entrance to Calke Abbey. The tiny, unsurfaced lane has a few dwellings. I guess they lived at one of the small cottages on the right, but don't know for sure. At the top it leads straight through a field and into Calke Park. I walked into the park and it took me to the tunnel where lime was transported from the Lime Yards at Ticknall to Ashby. I walked through the Lime Yards, got a bit muddy and lost and then on to the Staunton Harold Reservoir. see more photo's ................
Banton's lane is on the left coming into Ticknall from the Melbourne Direction, just after the entrance to Calke Abbey. The tiny, unsurfaced lane has a few dwellings. I guess they lived at one of the small cottages on the right, but don't know for sure. At the top it leads straight through a field and into Calke Park. I walked into the park and it took me to the tunnel where lime was transported from the Lime Yards at Ticknall to Ashby. I walked through the Lime Yards, got a bit muddy and lost and then on to the Staunton Harold Reservoir. see more photo's ................TICKNALL
I am just off for a walk with the dog to try to locate Banton's Lane in Ticknall where the Clarke's once lived ..........................
Saturday 1 August 2009
MOLLY, ENA AND EDNA
Love this photo of sisters Molly, Ena and Ednajust for the dresses they're wearing !
Must be the 40's
ELIZABETH TIVEY (nee MARSON) later years
Elizabeth Tivey (nee Marson) known as Mrs Dunnicliffe (from second marriage)....confusing
with :
Molly left, Edna Right, Lewis and Ena on stool.
they must have gone in for studio photo's in those days !
ELIZABETH MARSON later TIVEY
Elizabeth Marson
taken when she was 21 years old.
According to 1891 census when she was 15 years old, she lived with her parents George and Catherine Marson in Castle Street, Melbourne. There is no mention of any siblings.
I would have loved to have known this lady.
HEREWARD AND ARTHUR TIVEY
Clarence Hereward (front) and Arthur Marson Tivey (behind).Taken circa 1900
borrowed photo from Aunt Edna and touched it up with paint shop pro !
ARTHUR MARSON TIVEY
Arthur Marson Tivey (my Grandad) born 1896This is one of the very few photo's I have of Arthur.
Also I don't know a lot about him....
I remember visiting him and his second wife Evelyn at Wilmorton when I was little. Mum and Dad used to take them to the Blue Pool at Alvaston for a drink.
I also remember that anytime I asked my Grandad anything, Evelyn used to answer for him. So I never really got to talk to him.
I think he was a brick layer, labourer in his younger days.
MORE EARLY PHOTO'S
Love this photo even if it is a bit scratched !Molly is on left looking like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth !
Edna is on right and told me she remembers photo being taken and was scowling because her knickers were falling down ! note !
Mum is the baby with the dummy.
They are pictured with Lewis, who they were bought up with and considered their brother who was really their Uncle I think !
EARLY PHOTO'S OF HELENA (ENA) TIVEY
Helena Tivey (in pushchair) taken with neighbour in High Street, Melbourne.
Mum on right of photo with neighbourhood friends
Left to Right - Barbara Winters, Ivy Daykin, Ena Tivey
front - Lily Daykin.
TIVEY NAME
May have to redo the family tree page - its a scanned image !
Anyhow, where did the name originate from ?
The most popular view according to my information is that the name originates from the river Teifi (pronounced Tie-vy) flowing through Cardiganshire in Wales. Possibly from a clan living in the valley of the river. When they might have migrated is debatable.
Another theory is that the Tivey's are indigenous to the East Midlands.
The earliest record of a Tivey is in 1603 in Ashby de la Zouch.
1734 was the first record of a Tivey in Melbourne, Derbyshire. By the end of the 18th Century Melbourne was the main centre of the family and the only place where the name is common there.
About three quarters of the present Tivey's are thought to be descended from families living in Melbourne in the late 18th Century.
In 1841, the first year for which records are available, there were 220 Tivey's recorded in England, of whom 72 were living in Melbourne.
My surname is Tivey as this is my married name (my maiden name was Baker). My ex husband Kevin Henry Tivey and myself are both decended from Tivey's in Melbourne and linked about four generations back.
Anyhow, where did the name originate from ?
The most popular view according to my information is that the name originates from the river Teifi (pronounced Tie-vy) flowing through Cardiganshire in Wales. Possibly from a clan living in the valley of the river. When they might have migrated is debatable.
Another theory is that the Tivey's are indigenous to the East Midlands.
The earliest record of a Tivey is in 1603 in Ashby de la Zouch.
1734 was the first record of a Tivey in Melbourne, Derbyshire. By the end of the 18th Century Melbourne was the main centre of the family and the only place where the name is common there.
About three quarters of the present Tivey's are thought to be descended from families living in Melbourne in the late 18th Century.
In 1841, the first year for which records are available, there were 220 Tivey's recorded in England, of whom 72 were living in Melbourne.
My surname is Tivey as this is my married name (my maiden name was Baker). My ex husband Kevin Henry Tivey and myself are both decended from Tivey's in Melbourne and linked about four generations back.
THE TIVEY FAMILY TREE
Thomas Tivey
born 1806 Melbourne died 1876 Melbourne
A framesmith and lace hand in Melbourne
married 1825/26 Melbourne to :
Mary Bailey
born 1804/5 Nottingham died 1885
(daughter of John Bailey a gardener)
1841 census lived in New Yard Melbourne (now demolished)
they were my great, great, great grandparents
they had 9 children :
Fanny 1826
John 1827
Thomas 1830
Mary Ann 1832
Sarah 1833
Leonard 1835
Edwin 1837
Samuel 1839
Arthur 1849 (10 year after the previous son) my great great grandfather
Arthur Tivey
born 1848 died 1919 Melbourne
worked as a carpenter
married in 1869 in Derby to :
Mary Ann Pipes
born 1848 died 1928 Melbourne
they had 8 children :
Fanny 1869
Mary 1871
Leonard 1873 (my great grandfather)
Alfred 1875
Arthur 1879
Ernest 1881
John Bailey 1883
Norman 1885
1901 census they were living in Derby Road Melbourne
Leonard Tivey
born 1873 died 1911 Melbourne aged 38
married 1893 to :
Elizabeth Marson
(she later married Lewis Dunnicliffe in 1914 and had another son Lewis. Her husband died in Ypres in the Belgian Flanders in 1917 and never came home to see his son)
she was born 1875 died 1943 Melbourne
they lived in High Street Melbourne (just up from the Lamb in - see old photo - now demolished)
they had 3 sons
Clarence Hereward Tivey b. 1893 d. 1967
Arthur Marson Tivey b. 1896 d. ? (my grandfather)
Kenneth - died as a baby after being dropped
Arthur Marson Tivey
born 1896 Melbourne
worked as a bricklayers labourer
married 1920 to :
Helena Clarke
b. 1899 Calke, Ticknall Derbyshire
d. 4th May 1924 of Encaephalitis Lethargica in Derbyshire Royal Infirmary 8 days after having Helena (Ena)
they lived at the Kennel Cottages at Calke
my grandparents
they had 3 daughters
Molly b. 1921
Edna b. 1922
Helena (Ena) b. 1924 (my mother)
born 1806 Melbourne died 1876 Melbourne
A framesmith and lace hand in Melbourne
married 1825/26 Melbourne to :
Mary Bailey
born 1804/5 Nottingham died 1885
(daughter of John Bailey a gardener)
1841 census lived in New Yard Melbourne (now demolished)
they were my great, great, great grandparents
they had 9 children :
Fanny 1826
John 1827
Thomas 1830
Mary Ann 1832
Sarah 1833
Leonard 1835
Edwin 1837
Samuel 1839
Arthur 1849 (10 year after the previous son) my great great grandfather
Arthur Tivey
born 1848 died 1919 Melbourne
worked as a carpenter
married in 1869 in Derby to :
Mary Ann Pipes
born 1848 died 1928 Melbourne
they had 8 children :
Fanny 1869
Mary 1871
Leonard 1873 (my great grandfather)
Alfred 1875
Arthur 1879
Ernest 1881
John Bailey 1883
Norman 1885
1901 census they were living in Derby Road Melbourne
Leonard Tivey
born 1873 died 1911 Melbourne aged 38
married 1893 to :
Elizabeth Marson
(she later married Lewis Dunnicliffe in 1914 and had another son Lewis. Her husband died in Ypres in the Belgian Flanders in 1917 and never came home to see his son)
she was born 1875 died 1943 Melbourne
they lived in High Street Melbourne (just up from the Lamb in - see old photo - now demolished)
they had 3 sons
Clarence Hereward Tivey b. 1893 d. 1967
Arthur Marson Tivey b. 1896 d. ? (my grandfather)
Kenneth - died as a baby after being dropped
Arthur Marson Tivey
born 1896 Melbourne
worked as a bricklayers labourer
married 1920 to :
Helena Clarke
b. 1899 Calke, Ticknall Derbyshire
d. 4th May 1924 of Encaephalitis Lethargica in Derbyshire Royal Infirmary 8 days after having Helena (Ena)
they lived at the Kennel Cottages at Calke
my grandparents
they had 3 daughters
Molly b. 1921
Edna b. 1922
Helena (Ena) b. 1924 (my mother)
TIVEY FAMILY HISTORY
Next the Tivey family history...
This is my mothers maiden name - she was named Helena Tivey (Helena after her mother who died about 10 days after she was born), Mum was always known as Ena (the last three letters of Helena). She and her two elder sisters Edna and Molly were bought up by their Grandma on the Tivey side. Mum said she used to be called Ena Dunnicliffe when she was little (her Grandma's name was Dunnicliffe from her second marriage) She didn't realise this was not her real name until someone at school told her !
Mum's mum was Helena Tivey nee Clarke (as already documented), her father was Arthur Marson Tivey. (Marson was his mothers maiden name).
Arthur had one brother, Clarence Hereward (known as Hereward). His wife Elsie (nee Truman) said he was called Hereward as his mother was reading 'Hereward the Wake' while she was pregnant ! Apparently there was another baby boy in the family, called Kenneth. Unfortunately he died after being dropped while being taken out for a walk by someone. (not his mother)
Hereward and Arthur's father was a Leonard Tivey, born 1873 and died 1911 aged 38 (don't know how he died)
He was married in 1893 to Elizabeth Marson (both from Melbourne)
Elizabeth Marson later remarried in 1914 to Lewis Dunnicliffe. She had another son, Lewis. However his father went off to war and never returned to see his son.
Elizabeth must have had a hard time - having two sons and losing another, then widowed, and then remarried, then another son and widowed again. Then taking in her widowed sons three young daughters and bringing them up.
Arthur Tivey (mum's dad) later remarried in 1936 to Evelyn Godfrey (a widow with three children) and moved to live in Wilmorton, Derby. Edna lived with them for a while but mostly the girls stayed living with their Grandma in High Street, Melbourne.
Leonard Tivey's parents were Arthur Tivey, a carpenter of Melbourne and youngest of nine brothers and sisters. He was born in 1848 and died in 1919. He married in 1868 to Mary Ann Pipes of Melbourne. Born 1846 and died 1928.
Arthur Tivey's parents were Thomas Tivey, a Framesmith of Melbourne (born 1806 and died 1878) and Mary Bailey (born 1804/5 and died 1885) They married in 1925/6 Melbourne.
Thats as far as it goes.... see next blog for family tree
This is my mothers maiden name - she was named Helena Tivey (Helena after her mother who died about 10 days after she was born), Mum was always known as Ena (the last three letters of Helena). She and her two elder sisters Edna and Molly were bought up by their Grandma on the Tivey side. Mum said she used to be called Ena Dunnicliffe when she was little (her Grandma's name was Dunnicliffe from her second marriage) She didn't realise this was not her real name until someone at school told her !
Mum's mum was Helena Tivey nee Clarke (as already documented), her father was Arthur Marson Tivey. (Marson was his mothers maiden name).
Arthur had one brother, Clarence Hereward (known as Hereward). His wife Elsie (nee Truman) said he was called Hereward as his mother was reading 'Hereward the Wake' while she was pregnant ! Apparently there was another baby boy in the family, called Kenneth. Unfortunately he died after being dropped while being taken out for a walk by someone. (not his mother)
Hereward and Arthur's father was a Leonard Tivey, born 1873 and died 1911 aged 38 (don't know how he died)
He was married in 1893 to Elizabeth Marson (both from Melbourne)
Elizabeth Marson later remarried in 1914 to Lewis Dunnicliffe. She had another son, Lewis. However his father went off to war and never returned to see his son.
Elizabeth must have had a hard time - having two sons and losing another, then widowed, and then remarried, then another son and widowed again. Then taking in her widowed sons three young daughters and bringing them up.
Arthur Tivey (mum's dad) later remarried in 1936 to Evelyn Godfrey (a widow with three children) and moved to live in Wilmorton, Derby. Edna lived with them for a while but mostly the girls stayed living with their Grandma in High Street, Melbourne.
Leonard Tivey's parents were Arthur Tivey, a carpenter of Melbourne and youngest of nine brothers and sisters. He was born in 1848 and died in 1919. He married in 1868 to Mary Ann Pipes of Melbourne. Born 1846 and died 1928.
Arthur Tivey's parents were Thomas Tivey, a Framesmith of Melbourne (born 1806 and died 1878) and Mary Bailey (born 1804/5 and died 1885) They married in 1925/6 Melbourne.
Thats as far as it goes.... see next blog for family tree
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