May have to redo the family tree page - its a scanned image !
Anyhow, where did the name originate from ?
The most popular view according to my information is that the name originates from the river Teifi (pronounced Tie-vy) flowing through Cardiganshire in Wales. Possibly from a clan living in the valley of the river. When they might have migrated is debatable.
Another theory is that the Tivey's are indigenous to the East Midlands.
The earliest record of a Tivey is in 1603 in Ashby de la Zouch.
1734 was the first record of a Tivey in Melbourne, Derbyshire. By the end of the 18th Century Melbourne was the main centre of the family and the only place where the name is common there.
About three quarters of the present Tivey's are thought to be descended from families living in Melbourne in the late 18th Century.
In 1841, the first year for which records are available, there were 220 Tivey's recorded in England, of whom 72 were living in Melbourne.
My surname is Tivey as this is my married name (my maiden name was Baker). My ex husband Kevin Henry Tivey and myself are both decended from Tivey's in Melbourne and linked about four generations back.
Saturday, 1 August 2009
THE TIVEY FAMILY TREE
Thomas Tivey
born 1806 Melbourne died 1876 Melbourne
A framesmith and lace hand in Melbourne
married 1825/26 Melbourne to :
Mary Bailey
born 1804/5 Nottingham died 1885
(daughter of John Bailey a gardener)
1841 census lived in New Yard Melbourne (now demolished)
they were my great, great, great grandparents
they had 9 children :
Fanny 1826
John 1827
Thomas 1830
Mary Ann 1832
Sarah 1833
Leonard 1835
Edwin 1837
Samuel 1839
Arthur 1849 (10 year after the previous son) my great great grandfather
Arthur Tivey
born 1848 died 1919 Melbourne
worked as a carpenter
married in 1869 in Derby to :
Mary Ann Pipes
born 1848 died 1928 Melbourne
they had 8 children :
Fanny 1869
Mary 1871
Leonard 1873 (my great grandfather)
Alfred 1875
Arthur 1879
Ernest 1881
John Bailey 1883
Norman 1885
1901 census they were living in Derby Road Melbourne
Leonard Tivey
born 1873 died 1911 Melbourne aged 38
married 1893 to :
Elizabeth Marson
(she later married Lewis Dunnicliffe in 1914 and had another son Lewis. Her husband died in Ypres in the Belgian Flanders in 1917 and never came home to see his son)
she was born 1875 died 1943 Melbourne
they lived in High Street Melbourne (just up from the Lamb in - see old photo - now demolished)
they had 3 sons
Clarence Hereward Tivey b. 1893 d. 1967
Arthur Marson Tivey b. 1896 d. ? (my grandfather)
Kenneth - died as a baby after being dropped
Arthur Marson Tivey
born 1896 Melbourne
worked as a bricklayers labourer
married 1920 to :
Helena Clarke
b. 1899 Calke, Ticknall Derbyshire
d. 4th May 1924 of Encaephalitis Lethargica in Derbyshire Royal Infirmary 8 days after having Helena (Ena)
they lived at the Kennel Cottages at Calke
my grandparents
they had 3 daughters
Molly b. 1921
Edna b. 1922
Helena (Ena) b. 1924 (my mother)
born 1806 Melbourne died 1876 Melbourne
A framesmith and lace hand in Melbourne
married 1825/26 Melbourne to :
Mary Bailey
born 1804/5 Nottingham died 1885
(daughter of John Bailey a gardener)
1841 census lived in New Yard Melbourne (now demolished)
they were my great, great, great grandparents
they had 9 children :
Fanny 1826
John 1827
Thomas 1830
Mary Ann 1832
Sarah 1833
Leonard 1835
Edwin 1837
Samuel 1839
Arthur 1849 (10 year after the previous son) my great great grandfather
Arthur Tivey
born 1848 died 1919 Melbourne
worked as a carpenter
married in 1869 in Derby to :
Mary Ann Pipes
born 1848 died 1928 Melbourne
they had 8 children :
Fanny 1869
Mary 1871
Leonard 1873 (my great grandfather)
Alfred 1875
Arthur 1879
Ernest 1881
John Bailey 1883
Norman 1885
1901 census they were living in Derby Road Melbourne
Leonard Tivey
born 1873 died 1911 Melbourne aged 38
married 1893 to :
Elizabeth Marson
(she later married Lewis Dunnicliffe in 1914 and had another son Lewis. Her husband died in Ypres in the Belgian Flanders in 1917 and never came home to see his son)
she was born 1875 died 1943 Melbourne
they lived in High Street Melbourne (just up from the Lamb in - see old photo - now demolished)
they had 3 sons
Clarence Hereward Tivey b. 1893 d. 1967
Arthur Marson Tivey b. 1896 d. ? (my grandfather)
Kenneth - died as a baby after being dropped
Arthur Marson Tivey
born 1896 Melbourne
worked as a bricklayers labourer
married 1920 to :
Helena Clarke
b. 1899 Calke, Ticknall Derbyshire
d. 4th May 1924 of Encaephalitis Lethargica in Derbyshire Royal Infirmary 8 days after having Helena (Ena)
they lived at the Kennel Cottages at Calke
my grandparents
they had 3 daughters
Molly b. 1921
Edna b. 1922
Helena (Ena) b. 1924 (my mother)
TIVEY FAMILY HISTORY
Next the Tivey family history...
This is my mothers maiden name - she was named Helena Tivey (Helena after her mother who died about 10 days after she was born), Mum was always known as Ena (the last three letters of Helena). She and her two elder sisters Edna and Molly were bought up by their Grandma on the Tivey side. Mum said she used to be called Ena Dunnicliffe when she was little (her Grandma's name was Dunnicliffe from her second marriage) She didn't realise this was not her real name until someone at school told her !
Mum's mum was Helena Tivey nee Clarke (as already documented), her father was Arthur Marson Tivey. (Marson was his mothers maiden name).
Arthur had one brother, Clarence Hereward (known as Hereward). His wife Elsie (nee Truman) said he was called Hereward as his mother was reading 'Hereward the Wake' while she was pregnant ! Apparently there was another baby boy in the family, called Kenneth. Unfortunately he died after being dropped while being taken out for a walk by someone. (not his mother)
Hereward and Arthur's father was a Leonard Tivey, born 1873 and died 1911 aged 38 (don't know how he died)
He was married in 1893 to Elizabeth Marson (both from Melbourne)
Elizabeth Marson later remarried in 1914 to Lewis Dunnicliffe. She had another son, Lewis. However his father went off to war and never returned to see his son.
Elizabeth must have had a hard time - having two sons and losing another, then widowed, and then remarried, then another son and widowed again. Then taking in her widowed sons three young daughters and bringing them up.
Arthur Tivey (mum's dad) later remarried in 1936 to Evelyn Godfrey (a widow with three children) and moved to live in Wilmorton, Derby. Edna lived with them for a while but mostly the girls stayed living with their Grandma in High Street, Melbourne.
Leonard Tivey's parents were Arthur Tivey, a carpenter of Melbourne and youngest of nine brothers and sisters. He was born in 1848 and died in 1919. He married in 1868 to Mary Ann Pipes of Melbourne. Born 1846 and died 1928.
Arthur Tivey's parents were Thomas Tivey, a Framesmith of Melbourne (born 1806 and died 1878) and Mary Bailey (born 1804/5 and died 1885) They married in 1925/6 Melbourne.
Thats as far as it goes.... see next blog for family tree
This is my mothers maiden name - she was named Helena Tivey (Helena after her mother who died about 10 days after she was born), Mum was always known as Ena (the last three letters of Helena). She and her two elder sisters Edna and Molly were bought up by their Grandma on the Tivey side. Mum said she used to be called Ena Dunnicliffe when she was little (her Grandma's name was Dunnicliffe from her second marriage) She didn't realise this was not her real name until someone at school told her !
Mum's mum was Helena Tivey nee Clarke (as already documented), her father was Arthur Marson Tivey. (Marson was his mothers maiden name).
Arthur had one brother, Clarence Hereward (known as Hereward). His wife Elsie (nee Truman) said he was called Hereward as his mother was reading 'Hereward the Wake' while she was pregnant ! Apparently there was another baby boy in the family, called Kenneth. Unfortunately he died after being dropped while being taken out for a walk by someone. (not his mother)
Hereward and Arthur's father was a Leonard Tivey, born 1873 and died 1911 aged 38 (don't know how he died)
He was married in 1893 to Elizabeth Marson (both from Melbourne)
Elizabeth Marson later remarried in 1914 to Lewis Dunnicliffe. She had another son, Lewis. However his father went off to war and never returned to see his son.
Elizabeth must have had a hard time - having two sons and losing another, then widowed, and then remarried, then another son and widowed again. Then taking in her widowed sons three young daughters and bringing them up.
Arthur Tivey (mum's dad) later remarried in 1936 to Evelyn Godfrey (a widow with three children) and moved to live in Wilmorton, Derby. Edna lived with them for a while but mostly the girls stayed living with their Grandma in High Street, Melbourne.
Leonard Tivey's parents were Arthur Tivey, a carpenter of Melbourne and youngest of nine brothers and sisters. He was born in 1848 and died in 1919. He married in 1868 to Mary Ann Pipes of Melbourne. Born 1846 and died 1928.
Arthur Tivey's parents were Thomas Tivey, a Framesmith of Melbourne (born 1806 and died 1878) and Mary Bailey (born 1804/5 and died 1885) They married in 1925/6 Melbourne.
Thats as far as it goes.... see next blog for family tree
Friday, 31 July 2009
MORE CENSUS INFORMATION - CLARKE FAMILY
The previous post shows Henry Clarke aged 33 living with his wife Edna aged 29 and his 3 daughters, Evelyn 4, Helena 2 and Mary Jane 1 at Bantons Lane, Ticknall, Derbyshire. He was listed in the census as working as a groom. (1901 census)
On the 1911 census - 10 years later - there is no mention of Henry Clarke - His wife Edney or Edna is listed as living at Derby Hills, Melbourne, Derbyshire. (this is between Ticknall and Melbourne - Known as The Common) She was a listed as widowed, a charwoman, living with Helena 12 and Mary Jane 11. (Evelyn would have been 14 by then and possibly working 'in service' ?)
would be interested to find out what happened to Henry Clarke.............
On the 1911 census - 10 years later - there is no mention of Henry Clarke - His wife Edney or Edna is listed as living at Derby Hills, Melbourne, Derbyshire. (this is between Ticknall and Melbourne - Known as The Common) She was a listed as widowed, a charwoman, living with Helena 12 and Mary Jane 11. (Evelyn would have been 14 by then and possibly working 'in service' ?)
would be interested to find out what happened to Henry Clarke.............
Wednesday, 29 July 2009
1901 CENSUS INFORMATION - CLARKE FAMILY
Address
Bantons Lane
Civil Parish
Ticknall
South Derbyshire
Henry Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Head
Condition as to Marriage
Married
Sex
M
Age Last Birthday
33
Profession or Occupation
Groom
Employment Status
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
Edna Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Wife
Condition as to Marriage
Married
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
29
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
Evelyn Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Single
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
4
Where Born
Derbys Calke
Helena Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Single
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
2
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
Mary J Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Single
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
1
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
Bantons Lane
Civil Parish
Ticknall
South Derbyshire
Henry Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Head
Condition as to Marriage
Married
Sex
M
Age Last Birthday
33
Profession or Occupation
Groom
Employment Status
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
Edna Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Wife
Condition as to Marriage
Married
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
29
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
Evelyn Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Single
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
4
Where Born
Derbys Calke
Helena Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Single
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
2
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
Mary J Clarke
Relation to Head of Family
Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Single
Sex
F
Age Last Birthday
1
Where Born
Derbys Ticknall
MORE INFO ON CLARKE FAMILY
Edna Clarke's maiden name was Spencer, her father was Joseph Spencer born circa 1851, he was a general labourer. Her brother was Tom Spencer and one for the drink.
Henry Clarke was probably illegitimate so difficult to track down, hence the trouble finding him.. i have his wedding certificate to edna spencer... edna was a housemaid at calke.
Henrys mother was Clara Clarke and his father... as far as I can make out was a George Hall, they were both born in Ticknall in circa 1851.
They were both on his side of marraige certificate, when normally you only had the father... and obviously she was a Clarke, and George a Hall... if they were married, Henry would have been Henry Hall. George was a labourer.
Henry Clarke was probably illegitimate so difficult to track down, hence the trouble finding him.. i have his wedding certificate to edna spencer... edna was a housemaid at calke.
Henrys mother was Clara Clarke and his father... as far as I can make out was a George Hall, they were both born in Ticknall in circa 1851.
They were both on his side of marraige certificate, when normally you only had the father... and obviously she was a Clarke, and George a Hall... if they were married, Henry would have been Henry Hall. George was a labourer.
Sunday, 26 July 2009
CLARKE FAMILY HISTORY
I have logged most of what I know about the Clarke family of Calke, near Ticknall Derbyshire - this is my mother Helena (Ena) Baker (nee Tivey)'s mother (Helena Clarke) and her family.
I would like to know more about Henry Clarke, his life - he lived with his brother in Princes Street Derby at one time, how he came to be a groom at Calke and how he came to die quite young. Also I don't know much about his wife, named Edney or Edna Clarke apart from her being a laundrymaid at Calke Abbey, I would like to find out her maiden name.
I would like to know more about Henry Clarke, his life - he lived with his brother in Princes Street Derby at one time, how he came to be a groom at Calke and how he came to die quite young. Also I don't know much about his wife, named Edney or Edna Clarke apart from her being a laundrymaid at Calke Abbey, I would like to find out her maiden name.
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