ARTHUR MARSON TIVEY - WAR RECORD

ARTHUR MARSON TIVEY

War record info so far indicates he served in the Leicestershire Regiment, The Lancashire Fusilliers and the Machine Gun Corps.

ARTHUR MARSON TIVEY

Arthur Marson Tivey (my grandfather)

found this photo on tivey website - not seen it before

he worked as a labourer for most of his life

VIEWS AROUND 'DOG KENNEL' COTTAGES

WHITE LEES COTTAGE ON MELBOURNE TO CALKE ROAD

THE DOG KENNEL COTTAGES, CALKE

GHOST IN THE TUNNELS CALKE ABBEY

Is that a ghost up ahead ?

THE GARDENS AT CALKE

CALKE ABBEY ESTATE

VISIT TO CALKE ABBEY 20TH SEPT 2009

CALKE ABBEY

Went to have a look around Calke Abbey on Sunday, it was lovely and sunny and warm for September and we had a picnic there. It was good to go round the Abbey as its years since I last went - about the time the National Trust took it over - about 1985 I think.

The Abbey itself is interesting, it's quite dilapidated - paper hanging off the walls and dark and dreary in places - left as it was pretty much when the last of the Harper-Crewe's lived there.

I was particularly interested in the servants quarters as this gave me a flavour of what it must have been like to work there - quite hard work I imagine but I think folk would have looked after each other. There were old pots and pans in the kitchen and big lead sinks, no wonder they were mad !

We also walked down the tunnels that led to the brew house etc. My Aunt Edna remembers that her Granny who was a laundrymaid there used to go to work across the fields and through a tunnel (so the 'gentry' didn't have their view of the park spoiled)

My Greatgrandmother Edna Clarke (nee Spencer) was chief laundrymaid (see photo from Calke book earlier) Her sisters and children also later worked there. Her brother in law, a Mr Lyons was a lengthsman for the main Melbourne to Calke Road and their family lived at White Lees.

I asked quite a few volunteers for information about my Great Grandfather Henry Clarke - he was a groom there. I got a nice phone call back the next day from one of the staff. They couldn't tell me much more than I already knew but explained about the grooms usually living above the stables - which may account for him being referred to as a 'general labourer' on his death certificate - he must have given up being a groom by then, possibly because he was ill (died of TB aged 38) and also married by then with three daughters.

I was wondering if his father (no mention of him on his birth certificate) was perhaps Sir Vauncey Harper Crewe, who was around at the time !!! just a fantasy I think !!

HENRY CLARKE

I have now got a copy of Henry Clarke's (my great grandfather) birth cerificate.
He was born on 18th August 1860 in Ticknall, Derbyshire.
His mother was Clara Clarke.
There is no mention of the father at all................. confirming that he is in fact illegitimate.
Not been able to find any mention of Clara Clarke on any of the census' around that time in Ticknall................

This photo shows left to right :
Lilian (Lewis' wife) Edna, Ena and Molly.
They are wearing the hats worn by the soldiers who were billited with them in High Street during the war.

THE END OF THE WAR - PHOTO

This photo was taken in Melbourne Market Place at the end of the Second World War.

Everyone was celebrating the end of the war and making fun of the Germans.

Molly and Edna are to the left of the photo by 'Hitlers' arm.

ARTHUR MARSON TIVEY PROFILE

Arthur Marson Tivey


born 21st October 1898
died ? lung cancer ?

Parents Leonard Tivey and Elizabeth Marson and brother Hereward.
Born and lived in Melbourne for most of his life.
Married Helena Clarke in 1920.
Lived at the Dog Kennel cottages at Calke with Helena.
Had three daughters Molly, Edna and Helena (Ena)
Helena died 1925
Worked as a brick layer's labourer all his working life.
He remarried in 1936 to Evelyn Godfrey and they moved and lived rest of their lives in Wilmorton Derby.

Unsure of his military history but a note in his wife's diary leads me to believe he joined up with the Sherwood Forresters. He apparently always suffered with a 'bad chest' due to being gassed during the war. Not sure how true this is ?

PROFILE OF HENRY CLARKE

Henry Clarke was my Great Grandfather

He was born in 1868 in Ticknall, Derbyshire

According to the 1871 census when he was 2 years old he was living in Stanton Lane, Ticknall with his Aunt and Uncle Samuel and Sarah Topliss and their children.

Have an idea he may have been born illegitamately..............
I have tracked down and ordered a copy of his birth certificate try to find out.

In 1881 according to the census he was still living with Samuel and Sarah Topliss and their children William 19, Catherine 13, Mary 9, Samuel 5 and George Topliss in Stanton Lane, Ticknall.

He married Edna Spencer (she was born about 1872) ? when

They had 3 daughters
Evelyn b. 1897
Helena b. 1899
Mary Jane (Jinney) b. 1900

In the 1901 census he was living at Bantons Lane in Ticknall with his wife and daughters and working as a groom at Calke Abbey.

In the next census in 1911 his wife was widowed and living at Derby Hills, Melbourne (The Common - between Melbourne and Ticknall) together with Helena and Mary Jane

Henry Clarke died 8th December 1905 in Main Street, Ticknall. He was 38 years old. He died of Chronic Pulmonary Tuberculosis and heart failure. His wife was with him when he died. At that time he was described as a 'general labourer'.

DEATH CERTIFICATES

I have received the death cerificates I ordered.

Found out Henry Clarke (great grandfather) died of Tuberculosis aged 38.
He died on 8th December 1905 in Main Street, Ticknall. His wife Edna Clarke was with him when he died.

Helena Tivey (my grandmother and daughter of Henry Clarke) died on 4th May 1924 aged 25. She died in the Derbyshire Royal Infirmary. Her husband Arthur Marson Tivey was a bricklayers labourer at the time and they lived at the Kennels, Calke nr Ticknall. She died of Encaephalitis Lethargica - 21 days PM whatever that means ?

DEATH CERTIFICATES

Excited ! Traced Helena Tivey and Henry Clarke's death certificates on the census website and then ordered a copy of their death certificates....
Henry died in 1905 aged 38 - so should be able to find out what he died of.

Also reading 'Awakenings' by Oliver Sacks - all about encaephalitis lethargic patients being treated with levo dopa and wakening up after decades of inertia. Gives a good insight into the disease and makes me wonder how long Helena had it before she died ?

STAUNTON HAROLD RESERVOIR TODAY

The 'res' can resemble Skeggy on a hot summers day !!

STAUNTON HAROLD RESERVOIR

above - looking towards the farm which is near the Dog Kennel Cottages at Calke.

THE FLOODING OF THE VALLEY

Staunton Harold reservoir was created in 1964 – before that time the valley was a place for industry and agriculture. Beneath the water lies a fascinating picture of local history.

Sir Henry’s Bridge was begun by Sir Henry Crewe of Calke Abbey. Sir Henry rode over his half finished bridge on the way to London in 1817, and scolded the men for their laziness, telling them to complete it before his return. In London, the unfortunate Sir Henry was killed by a fall from his horse. The carriage bringing his body back to Calke was the last to pass over the still incomplete bridge. It was never finished but became a famous local landmark.

Calke Mill dates back to 1589 and appears to have been in continuous use until the 1950’s. In 1879 Sir Henry Harper Crewe of the Harper Crewe family, purchased it and the surrounding land. The mill’s last tenant was Fred Bentley who left in 1958, and whose family had lived on the Calke estate for over two centuries. At the time Fred announced, ‘before they turn our old house into a reservoir we shall get a barrel of beer, get all the family together and have a party’. The family still live locally.

Furnace farm now lies under water 200metres from the dam. This was the site of a forge believed to date back to the 17th century. Here, cast iron was worked into wrought iron using hammers powered by a water wheel in a stream running through the valley. By 1735, the old forge had been converted to a charcoal-fired blast furnace. Again water power from the nearby stream was used, this time to operate bellows; charcoal was supplied from Melbourne Wood.

At the time of the flooding, New England Farm and two other small-holdings were also covered by the new reservoir.

Our relatives living a the Dog Kennels at Calke, (now on the edge of the reservoir) also moved out to make way for the flooding of the valley, although in the event the cottages survived. They can be accessed via a private road which leads to the farm on the edge of the reservoir (off Broadstone Lane, Ticknall) or by foot from the back of the reservoir which borders on Calke Park. (Footpath leading from the 'Round Carpark). The road from the Kennel Cottages is the old road from Melbourne through Calke and leading straight to Calke Abbey.

AROUND CALKE AUGUST 2009

Looking towards Broadstone Lane

THE LIMEYARDS, TICKNALL, DERBYSHIRE

CALKE PARK, TICKNALL, DERBYSHIRE

BANTON'S LANE TICKNALL

BANTONS LANE AT TICKNALL

BANTON'S LANE, TICKNALL, DERBYSHIRE

I took Poppy for a walk to Ticknall today to discover Banton's Lane. This is where my Great Grandparents Henry and Edna Clarke lived with their three daughters at the time of the 1901 census. Banton's lane is on the left coming into Ticknall from the Melbourne Direction, just after the entrance to Calke Abbey. The tiny, unsurfaced lane has a few dwellings. I guess they lived at one of the small cottages on the right, but don't know for sure. At the top it leads straight through a field and into Calke Park. I walked into the park and it took me to the tunnel where lime was transported from the Lime Yards at Ticknall to Ashby. I walked through the Lime Yards, got a bit muddy and lost and then on to the Staunton Harold Reservoir. see more photo's ................

TICKNALL

I am just off for a walk with the dog to try to locate Banton's Lane in Ticknall where the Clarke's once lived ..........................

MOLLY, ENA AND EDNA

Love this photo of sisters Molly, Ena and Edna
just for the dresses they're wearing !

Must be the 40's

ELIZABETH TIVEY (nee MARSON) later years

Elizabeth Tivey (nee Marson) known as Mrs Dunnicliffe (from second marriage)....confusing

with :

Molly left, Edna Right, Lewis and Ena on stool.

they must have gone in for studio photo's in those days !

ELIZABETH MARSON later TIVEY

Elizabeth Marson

taken when she was 21 years old.

According to 1891 census when she was 15 years old, she lived with her parents George and Catherine Marson in Castle Street, Melbourne. There is no mention of any siblings.

I would have loved to have known this lady.

HEREWARD AND ARTHUR TIVEY

Clarence Hereward (front) and Arthur Marson Tivey (behind).

Taken circa 1900

borrowed photo from Aunt Edna and touched it up with paint shop pro !

ARTHUR MARSON TIVEY

Arthur Marson Tivey (my Grandad) born 1896

This is one of the very few photo's I have of Arthur.

Also I don't know a lot about him....

I remember visiting him and his second wife Evelyn at Wilmorton when I was little. Mum and Dad used to take them to the Blue Pool at Alvaston for a drink.

I also remember that anytime I asked my Grandad anything, Evelyn used to answer for him. So I never really got to talk to him.

I think he was a brick layer, labourer in his younger days.

MORE EARLY PHOTO'S

Love this photo even if it is a bit scratched !
Molly is on left looking like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth !
Edna is on right and told me she remembers photo being taken and was scowling because her knickers were falling down ! note !
Mum is the baby with the dummy.
They are pictured with Lewis, who they were bought up with and considered their brother who was really their Uncle I think !

EARLY PHOTO'S OF HELENA (ENA) TIVEY

Helena Tivey (in pushchair) taken with neighbour in High Street, Melbourne.














Mum on right of photo with neighbourhood friends

Left to Right - Barbara Winters, Ivy Daykin, Ena Tivey
front - Lily Daykin.

MUM - HELENA TIVEY AS A YOUNG WOMAN

MUM - HELENA TIVEY - PHOTO'S AS A CHILD

My mum Helena Tivey